He is now suspect for Delphi murders. Listen asshole, do you have any idea who you were just a smartass to? The two girls were nowhere to be found, nor was there any idea of what could have happened to them. Misty and Dan did,and passed! In Delphi, it appears that the posed bodies were meant to be discovered, unless, of course, the killer had intended to take them to another location, but was forced to leave/kill them where they were found. I know you surely didnt ask for any of this, If you could turn back time just for 1 min maybe it would change something? Do they even recover cause of death in Evansdale finding the bodies 5 months after the abduction? Jim Newton the Detective working that case then showed me the pictures that could not be used in evidence. Fingers crossed that their case gets solved soon! The little girls were around the same age as my son. The Evansdale victims weren't found for 5 months, with more than a month of hot weather, the decomposition would have been very rapid. Does Altmayer arrest have any connection to missing cousins case? Dan and Misty Morrissey were sent to prison on unrelated drug charges after the girls disappeared, and Mortvedt said Misty Morrissey has since been released. The park where the girls were found is very remote and only the kind of place locals who grew up in the area ever visit. They did so without attacking anyone else in the process. I am not saying he was involved, but he has connections to the area. Were coming for you. Here is the tragic story of the Evansdale murders. (2) Both double murders happened on the same date read backwards (which I do NOT believe was just a coincidence). Who has left the area,?? 3) In reference to your insults about the commenters lack of education, I believe you meant to say eighth grade rather than eigth grade. My thoughts are with all of you. Fishermen found Shepards body Friday night, June 7, 2013, in the Des Moines River about 15 to 20 miles downriver from where it runs along Daytons east side. This may be the same people yet I don't know why the would kill them but this could be a lead idk, johnny was delivering newspapers on his route not mail. Thats my theory. I wonder if there is a connection :(. Im often wrong when I do and I find dont know what Im talking about. Looking on Google Earth it looks like it is the southeastern half of Waterloo. I would no more attack someone for writing FWIW (instead of For what its worth) than I would someone using the word prolly instead of probably.. He's wagon of mail was found a block away from his house. 1 / 7. He is now deceased, but he had a habit of abducting two girls at a time for his perversions. The remembrance came with a message for the killer of the Black Hawk County girls. If the lication where the bodies were discovered, couldnt law enforcement pinpoint when the bodies first appeared in that location. I cant believe something so heinous took place in a small town. He has lots of meth charges too. And just what ARE they doing with any DNA they have? That was a 15 year old girl Kathlynn Shepard and her 12 year old friend from another small town in Iowa. Through the years she has often suggested we take a tour of Evansdale so she could show me Meyers Lake, Angels Park, and where the girls lived and so forth. But in my experience, families may share some behaviors, learned or otherwise. Young teens Abby Williams and Liberty German went out to enjoy a walk on a local trail and disappeared. They disappear and are later found murdered. As XXXXX is telling me this story, she burst into tears. were lyric and libby the main targets because of these? Its the significance between similarities that matters. Seems so logical that he could be involved. (i.e. One is on Gilbert in Evansdale and one on a farm or house in Readlyn. Two witnesses said theyd seen the white SUV parked between two bike trail signs. He left that night. Mortvedt also said authorities do not believe Lyrics parents were involved in the girls deaths. Chad was convicted with: Dan had been in custody due to several drug charges involving meth. This beautiful girls deserve justice. Were going to find you, and were going to come get you.. Lyric passed away on Friday, July 13, 2012. Why are you commenting on this year old comment? This perpetrator just died in prison and she and her family were discussing his obituary. They were also in agreement that Seven Bridges Wildlife Area represented an important part of the case, The Gazette reported Feb. 3, 2015. Old people love to talk about other old people. I think it was somebody that knew the girls. Either it was someone who was naive to the idea that hunters would be in the area and would probably find the girls or it was someone who knew and wanted the girls to be found during hunting season. By continuing to browse, you accept the use of cookies and other technologies. 2005 2023 You sent December 7, 2020 Thoes girls deserve it. Related: 29 Unsolved Murders That Will Send Shivers Down Your Spine. December 7, 2020 Hopefully with time theyll fess up if they dont get busted first. People saying there can't be a serial killer are getting ahead of themselves just as much as the people who are confident there is a serial killer. I also wonder, since he had so many meth/drug busts if that is related? Did get em. Its not the kind of place that many people even know about. Now that theres a little bit of a lull, we are able to start poring through those reports and make those connections., Witnessed described the vehicle as a large and clunky white SUV and an old-style boxy suburban.. Ok, do you think you can catch that house number? Both are deceased now, but Chad should be considered a suspect anyway. WTH? Rip sweet angelsthis is so sad. So sad. They would have been left in front of their homes, or photos would have been sent of them harmed before they died. Investigators admit that while there are many similarities surrounding the murders of Elizabeth, Lyric, Liberty and Abigail, they do not believe they were committed by the same person. Cant believe you said that !? This actually happens a lot within the world of illegal drug use and dealing of drugs. 12/7/20, 5:39 PM MO and signature are both different and cases arent geographically linked. They simply got in too deep with professional drug dealers and as i said before, very common practice to have the children kidnapped for ransom or as in this case, murdered. I want to lyric and Lizs life and death have meaning and make the changes nessasry to protect and to allow other children their freedom to play again. So now he leaves that Evansdale house after the murders and moves in with grandma (or mom) AGAIN, now in Readlyn, near the reserve! He told the creepy stories about how she liked sitting on his lap and that she wanted him. She was really cute, he told the reporter. Again Thank you Kim. So we take that into consideration as well and we've investigated that, we've been in contact with Iowa and they've been in contact with us and we've discussed that but nothing else seems to be popping up around the nation that is similar to this but doesn't mean he's gonna kill everybody the same way every time. Some of this is simple speculation, but I hope you understand why I am drawing some inferences that I draw. No. Abby-Libby Lyric-Elizabeth RayHanish Idaho-Case FloraGirls Karena Athena Suzanne #loveandlight Remembering. Mushroom searchers typically wander the area. I don't see it as being secretive, there probably is very little forensic evidence. Considering the snatch and grab scenario of young women nowadays youre not far off gramma. Abby & Libby were killed on February 13, 2017 2/13/17 21317 The dates being mirror images of each other really hit home for me because I have two sons who are 21 years apart and, despite there being 365 days in a year, the older one was born March 28th - 328 - and the younger one was born August 23rd - 823. 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Look at those two charges! Soon, the Black Hawk County Sheriffs Department and the local fire department joined in the search for Elizabeth and Lyric. So please dont act like you know anything about me . Elizabeth Collins (left) and Lyric Cook (right) were found dead in Iowa in 2012. Both occurred in tiny rural towns. On the other hand, there might be more than one perpetrator. XXXXXXX sent December 7, 2020 Someone who only commits his crime if a bridge is involved in some way, and always leaves the bodies within 50 feet of a slow moving stream. There may be some similarities but you can find similarities in everything if you look hard enough. I have a clean record and have never been in trouble with the police since I was a young man Im 45 years old and am not a druggy I own my own business and am home with my childeren every night . In an interview Wylma gave, she stated the cousins went out to ride their bikes hundreds of times and this time they did not come home. She was preceded in death by her paternal great-grandparents Herb and Marie Johnson; maternal grandfather Ray Cook; maternal great-grandparents Cliff and June Brandes and many aunts, uncles, great-aunts and great-uncles. He is considered endangered/physical, for some unknown reason. The children were moved from the abduction site and their bodies were dumped in a more remote area 25 miles away, so, like the police said, the abductor most likely lives in and knows the area. GONE COLD: EXPLORING IOWAS UNSOLVED MURDERS, http://evansdalepolice.org/latestonlyricandelizabeth.php, person who abducted the cousins was likely local, National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, https://iowacoldcases.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Fourth-Memorial-Ride-Drive-in-honor-of-Lyric-and-Elizabeth-KWWL-Eastern-Iowa-Breaking-News-Weather-Closings.mp4, https://iowacoldcases.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Volunteers-prepare-for-ride-in-honor-of-Lyric-and-Elizabeth-KWWL-Eastern-Iowa-Breaking-News-Weather-Closings.mp4, https://iowacoldcases.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Vigil-Held-for-3-Girls-Gone-too-Soon-KGAN.mp4, https://iowacoldcases.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Iowa-starts-year-long-process-to-be-CART-certified.mp4, Iowa starts year-long process to be CART-certified, https://iowacoldcases.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/DCI-Asst-Director-Talks-About-Evansdale-Cousins-Murder-Investigation-whotvcom.mp4, DCI Asst. Case Summaries Its not a subject I want to talk about with my frail mother in law. Three years already. Getter done. I will keep up on this until he, she or they get caught. Were coming for you, Trelka said. Everyone thinks all they need is DNA. he refused to let us go out at night and threatened to arrest anyone who did. Bridges exist in both cases. Believe me, sometimes the general public knows way more than law enforcement agencies will ever know and to me those people are just as guilty as the killers for keeping that information secret. Drew Collins , I will Apologize To you Sir , For The Awful and rude Comments being made about you and your Family . Not everyone has a conscience, I see that you have been correcting peoples grammar but dont you mean coma instead of comma? This site uses cookies to improve user experience. They either received drugs that couldnt be paid for or they stole drugs from dealer. All Rights Reserved, Home I do still hold out hope that Delphi will be solved. Seven Bridges is basically just a road that loops around the forrest nexts to a river. Most likely a team of two, but sexual predators, especially child sex offenders, tend to commit crimes alone. Dont attack somebody for there grammar but its ok to attack the family of the girls. Thankfully, we know for every county, every city, what unsolved missing persons cases they have, said Gerard Meyers, assistant director of field operations of the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation in a USA Today story published June 10, 2013. I am reading conflicting reports. I always pull up google maps when reviewing these cases. Hes killed before. I also want to get the Early Bird Books newsletter featuring great deals on ebooks. or. Well if you really want to know, Im bored at work, this is an interesting comment thread, and Id like to know who the killer is (as Im sure the rest of the world does as well). Two teenagers Abby and Libby, ages 13 and 14 years, respectively, from Delphi, Indiana, died in February 2017. And for her family. I pray every day for you and Your family and Pray that today you will get Justice for Elizabeth , I share The information every day online in Hopes it may help. I wrote this after the girls were found .Dec 2012 Im just uneducated white trash but that dont make me all bad. So surely law enforcement has asked for cell phone pings at the Lake when the girls were there and then tracked those pings to actual owners of those cell phones. I want to add the problems of information sharing in American law enforcement. I say keep digging til you hit China ! Motives. The FBI eventually joined in the search, sending trained divers to Meyers Lake to search for the girls. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. You sent December 7, 2020 Community members held a candlelight vigil Wednesday night at Meyers Lake at the same spot where theyd set up a makeshift memorial after the girls disappeared in July. Lyric and Elizabeth were in IA. Its right next to Waterloo. Abben said there were no other missing persons cases and the remains found were of a smaller stature. Lyrics parents and Elizabeths father (Mr. Collins on this page sorry for your losses, sir) went into detail about their mistakes, how theyve paid for them, and what theyre doing now to make things better and honor their daughters/nieces memory. The word is probably as in you probably did not make it past eigth grade. This points to stabbing/cutting. I dont know lyric or Liz or their families personaly but they have changed me, and I will never forget them Please no grammar police. Hundreds of volunteers had helped search for the cousins, and the lake near where their bicycles were found had been partially drained. 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